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Wednesday, September 20, 2006

Response to a Muslim

I recently posted regarding my feelings about 'The religion of peace'. Normally Islamists don't bother responding to Atheists as they have bigger fish to fry and perhaps have realized the futility of doing so, but I did get a response today from a student in Jordan. You can read his comments in the previous post.

It is the basic form response from Muslims who don't wish to or cannot threaten you with death or kill you for insulting Islam, due to the geographical unavailability of your throat from their hands or other limits on their ability to respond. If you don't care to read his response I can encapsulate it for you: You are a fool. Allah is the ONE GOD. You don't know anything about Islam. Islam has a great history. I hope Allah shows you the ONE WAY. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Here is my reply:

Dear Mr Shiroqou,

Had your response been just a bit more predictable - like most 'cookie cutter' responses that unthinking Islamists write - I might have thought it was a joke.

First, I am not an Islamist. I will never be an Islamist. So Allah has jack shit to do with me. He is YOUR God and belief in him and his prophet will probably lead you to a very miserable life of semi-poverty, denial of your humanity and will no doubt have a negative effect on others you come into contact with. But Islam will never effect what I do, or say or how I behave. So you may want to get past the notion that your belief in Allah has any bearing over me.

Do you realize how automated and memorized your repsonse sounded? It is the same response you see over and over again from Islamists when they react to infidels. I have seen the videos of Muslim children in school, memorizing the Koran as they trance-like rock forward and backward. Are you really that brain-washed? Do your teachers in university make you memorize this little speach about Islam when you are confronted with an unbeliever who does not fear you? How different would your response be if we were face to face? How would you handle an Infidel, an Atheist no less, disputing the words of Allah in Jordan where you live?


You see, your words about Islam being so great and wonderful are just what we call Bull Shit around here Mr Shiroqou. We don't wear blinders you know. We see what Islam does in the countries that it controls. We see how women are treated, murdered by their families, hanged for supposed infidelity. We have eyes and can see the TRUTH of what an Islamic world would be like and we don't like it.

As far as the history of Islam goes, it is littered with blood, conquest and atrocities just as Christian history is. The difference is that Islam is STILL committing those atrocities and looks to continue to do so until it brings about your own destruction or takes over the world. BTW, the later option is NOT going to happen, Mr Shiroqou (one less Muslim youth wet dream).

So please save your tired and old B.S. about Islam for some poor convert to some other religion. I am an ATHEIST. My eyes have been opened to the foolishness of all religions. One would only need half of one eye opened to see the lunacy of your religion, Islam.









9 Comments:

At 9/20/2006 7:19 PM, beepbeepitsme said...

Some sections of Islam cannot envisage a society where people have the right to insult others. Yes, and even poke fun at someone's religious beliefs.

True, it isn't considered politically correct in many circles, but it isn't illegal.

What is illegal is incitement to violence. (At least here where I live.)

The grey area seems to exist where some muslims consider any discussion which does not support their religion to be an excuse for their OWN violence.

 
At 9/26/2006 3:52 AM, shiroqou said...

dear mr alan
I'm verrrrry sorrrrry if i seemed to say that you are fool ! i've said " not fool like you" and i ment that he is like you in beeing not fool......
and be sure that if you visit jordan that any house of muslims will be happy to invite you to a "Mansaf" our traditional meal....
and i can't kill you because God forbid me to not do as much as you didn't try to kill me.....
and mr alan be sure that as a muslim i can't force you to be a muslim by any way as God ( Allah ) ask us to do ... so you can be what ever you want and i HAVE to respect you and your humanity....
by the way i'm not poor neather stupid .... prophet muhammed asked us to ask Allah to proof us from poverty and ignorance....
I'm very sorry that the action of less than thousand people affect the vision of billion and a few years erase the glory of a thousand.... i live in the country where jeasus born ... if muslims forced me to be a muslim and killed my grand fathers what forbed me not to be christian!!!! the answer is easy ... islam looooove jeasus ... and never killed my grand fathers...

and about memorizing what i've said ... i have a week memory . and no one talled me to do so ... and no one forced me to memorize quraan and i memorize only what help me to pray ... be sure no muslim will force you to memorize quraan... still i wish you read it...

finally please dont use bad words to discribe Allah ... because he is greater than offenses and who offinse him accually offinse himself and challenge who creat him and all the universe...
by the way if you don't believe in God why you offinse him...
but i believe in God ( Allah ) due to mericles in quraan
and this is a web site that tell about some i wish you please see it
http://www.55a.net/firas/english/

sorry for elongation and thanks for your reply...

 
At 9/26/2006 12:01 PM, Stardust1954 said...

shiroqou - the only reason you believe is because you have been brainwashed. If you had been born in Sweden you probably would lead a secular life, if you were born in Israel you may have been a Jew, if you had been born in Alabama you most likely would have been a born-again xian, if you had been born in China you might have been a Taoist...it's all environmental and what you are exposed to. Also, you believe because you hate this life and are living only for an afterlife that you cannot even prove exists except by using some torn and tattered ancient book written by humans to control other humans.
It is you, my friend, who has to change YOUR thinking, not the atheist.

 
At 9/26/2006 8:55 PM, Stardust1954 said...

Looking more closely at shiroqou's hardly used website (2 whole posts since Dec. 2005), and at the photo posted, I suspect that he is nothing but a mere troll and not a muslim at all. He is just out to have some fun in the blogosphere.

 
At 9/27/2006 4:10 PM, obscure atheist said...

i know muslims very well because i was a muslim! i ask tthis muslim don't want to kill me too? because i was muslim and i changed my beliefs and became an atheist.
am i a "Mortad" or "vajebol ghatl"?
your quran command you to kill me!
what is ur idea about it?

 
At 10/01/2006 2:23 AM, beepbeepitsme said...

Terrible to think that people still claim the right to kill those who do not share the same religious beliefs.

 
At 10/01/2006 6:56 AM, shiroqou said...

dear mrs
In the first place I diod'nt argue your believes ..... which i don't want to argue !!!!!
and the only reason made me to comment mr alan blogger that i wanted to make my duty and say a muslim's word wishing you may see the other point of view ....
but what i saw is arguing my believes ( that i think you are dispered to argue ) and critisizing me , my dictation , my blogger , and the pic. shape( by the way it's not mine... it's for my favorite player.....) and i don't have time to write in my blogger because i study in the university of dintestry....and i'm now in a break !!!!!
If you don't want to be a muslim don't....... but don't say that we are brain washed .... really what do you know about islam or muslims????? what do you know about my life to say so??? i'm not misrable i'm soooooooooo happy and live my life as i want and feeeeel soooooooo good about myself..
i want to ask you
are you really fair ??? ask yourselves this quistion....
if you do'nt want to see that the cells inside your body is tooooooooooooooo comlecated to be a coinsidense... if you cann't see that this universe is tooooooo organized to be a luck creation ... if you cann't see that a car need someone to create it , the computer need someone to programm it , the human need a God to turn him from one cell to a whole human can see and can hear ... reallllllly ( an assumed brain washed person ) ask you who equipped this cell with this great organized DNA programm ? if no one then I will say i'm sorry you are now the one with brain washed!!! i'm sorry to say so but is there any answer....
finally can you dare me and say from your deep heart: If You God is here and see me and here me and creat me , tell me the truth ... show me the truth .... i'm truth seeker i want to know the truth and nothing more.....
so if you are right then you'll be now relaxed with your idies ... but be sure Allah will answer you.........
this is my last time i enter this websire that you did'nt like my entrance

 
At 10/02/2006 10:12 AM, Stardust1954 said...

If you don't want to be a muslim don't....... but don't say that we are brain washed .... really what do you know about islam or muslims?????

You are brainwashed and are not satisfied to keep your beliefs to yourself. That is the problem with Abrahamic religions...they want to shove it off on everyone else and you all think you have the "true" religion and that causes problems in the world. Religion is a threat to world peace. Also keep in mind, if you were born someplace else on the planet, you most likely would be a Buddhist, or a Hindu, or a Lutheran, or a Catholic, or from a primitive tribe that believes in spirits and demons, etc. etc. You happen to be a muslim because that is where you happened to be born into and that is the "superstition" of your people.

if you do'nt want to see that the cells inside your body is tooooooooooooooo comlecated to be a coinsidense... if you cann't see that this universe is tooooooo organized to be a luck creation

Xians use this reasoning, also. Just because some things are too complicated for your mind to understand doesn't mean that you should make something up to explain things, which is what religion does.

The real reason religious folks believe is because of their believed promise of an afterlife...plain and simple. Believers in an afterlife hate this life and are living for death...which is really, really sad because you are wasting a very short time here on this unique and beautiful planet hoping for something better when paradise is right here. If we could do away with religion we might all be able to live in peace and enjoy the time we have. When we are dead, we are dead. All the wishing and praying and delusional thinking is not going to change that.

It is better to accept the nature of things, including death, with dignity than to fight against the inevitable with wishes for a delusional "paradise."

 
At 10/28/2006 4:04 PM, Anonymous said...

Islamists are happy? How about the women who are stoned to death because they've been raped? How about the women who can be beaten on the street, by any man, if even a bit of their skin shows where it's not "supposed" to? How about the parents of the school girls who burned to death because they were not allowed to escape the fire because they were not covered?

How can anyone be "happy" if they don't think critically? How can anyone be "happy" if they follow old belief systems not because they make sense, but because they're forced to on threat of death?

The only reason there are so many followers of those ancient belief systems from the middle east is that they were spread though use of threats, torture, and murder.

Peaceful religions, my ass.

 

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